It's been awhile since I've done a proper thread on here, so I thought it was about time to get back to the old ways and just let it rip with no capitalization or editing. I will post the result, properly edited into "article" form, after this is done.
Naturally, there have been a lot of comparisons lately between Zionism and Nazism. And this is of course a correct comparison - but to what degree do we understand the depth of the relationship between these two phenomena? On the one hand, certainly it is accurate to make a mechanical comparison between the methods and ideologies. It is useful to highlight the hypocrisy of the Zionist embrace of the methods and mindsets of Nazism. But I believe to truly understand the two phenomena, and understand their relationship more fully, we must go further in tying them together. And in order to do this, we must understand the historical form of the Crusade -
The structure here is going to be a brief recap of the Roman groundwork for the Crusades, an examination of the crusading form itself, and then we will place Nazism and Zionism into their proper context, lest anyone get concerned that these precursory subjects will just go on and on without end. This may seem a little meandering to people who are unfamiliar with the subject matter. But in the end I think it will make sense why I think all of this is worth our time to understand.
The Crusades have their root in the founding of Roman civilization. Some readers may have read the treatment I have given to this subject in covering the war in Iraq - a few points must be summarized, and I will link to the broader examination so that people may review them in greater detail than they will be treated here.
Firstly, Roman civilization crystallized into its modern form with their embrace of "monotheistic" religion:
At some point during their difficulties in dealing with the civilization of Judaea and the special problems it posed to their pagan ruling practices, a decision was made to transform their empire into one of monotheism by usurping the religion from the Jews and corrupting the practices revealed by their final prophet:' Isa, Alayhis Salaam, Jesus. This was a transformation that lasted multiple centuries and for a broad treatment of this subject refer to the work here -
I will try to very quickly summarize to spare those who have already read through this.
Through an intertextual relationship with the "historical" work of Josephus entitled 'War of the Jews' - nominally a documentary of the Roman conquest of Judaea - the pagan principles of the Roman Empire were married to the authentic monotheistic religion in such a way that they enshrine the pagan practice of human worship, the imperial cult, the worship of the Roman Emperor as God. They simultaneously sarcastically chronicle their victory over Judaism.
The worship of human beings is perhaps the arch form of idolatry, an idea that was utterly intolerable to the followers of the religion of Allah (the Jews of Judaea), and the root cause of the Romans' "Jewish problem". Forcing the Jews to worship Caesar, and corrupting their religion into one based around the worship of Caesar and transposing the Roman conqueror of Judaea onto Jesus the Messiah and basing this corrupted religion around the Roman concept of "the son of God" was their joke at the expense of the Jews they defeated.
One can imagine they presumed this would be the ultimate humiliation of the followers of Allah, the rejecters of idolatry.
After their initial conquest of Judaea, a centuries - long campaign of violent extermination of the authentic followers of' Isa began while they worked to develop their replacement cults and enforce their false" Christianity", until it was ultimately ready for official adoption by the Roman Empire. The idea here is one of, pruning the Jews off of the root of monotheism and * grafting * their Roman doppelganger onto this root.
The imagery used in the Bible and Josephus is" Root and branch" and this is covered extensively in the link above. I strongly encourage readers to take the time to familiarize with the actual textual analysis of the Bible against Josephus cited in the linked work.
This is the origin of the saying of the early" Church Fathers" that the Jews were responsible for * killing * God. By failing to protect and preserve their religion, letting the Romans succeed in corrupting the pure religion with the ultimate filth of the worship of human beings, the Jews had - according to the Roman joke -" Killed" God. Thus was anti-judaism baked into the very core of the new Roman religion and Roman civilization altogether, thus was the foundation of Roman civilization established as an unending revelry in their humiliation of the Jews the conquest of Judaea and the establishment of" Christianity" is the core of Roman and thus Western civilization," Christendom" If you prefer that label. It is the prototype of the crusading structure - crusading is about revitalizing and re-establishing that" Glory".
And it remakes the identity of Roman Empire as being against the religion of Allah (at that time Judaism), and this enemy gives it existence and life. and hold onto this one for later: Roman civilization - Western civilization," Christendom"- establishes itself intentionally as a doppelganger, an" evil twin" of the true religion.
I mentioned earlier the symbolic pruning the root of Judaism and grafting the Roman production onto it, but there is also a sense of" projecting" or" absorbing" of Judaism onto itself as a sort of" evil reflection". As abstract as this all may seem, this is the material that Zionism was born out of and for people who truly wish to understand the Zionist project it is important to know this sort of symbolic heritage. Onto the crusading form itself- it is tempting to go much into detail about the state of Jerusalem in the intervening time between the initial Roman conquest and the" First" Crusade - I will try to resist this temptation and only give a necessary summary.
The Bar Kochba revolt and immediate aftermath, the defiling of holy places with Pagan temples, this is covered in the linked work above. During the period of Constantine the city was revitalized alongside the public adoption of" Christianity" by the Empire, churches were built including the Church of the Holy Sepulchre where the" True Cross" was allegedly discovered. Jerusalem reemerged as a focal point, now for the Romans - Jews were barred from the city, and the Temple Mount was left in rubble as a symbol of their humiliation with the Church of the Holy Sepulchre gazing on.
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See already - I have mentioned this elsewhere and it is worth mentioning again - how utterly absurd on its face is the Zionist alliance with the Romans, the west," Christendom"?
I do not know of any other civilization in history that has ever staked so much of its identity upon a hatred and an obsession over humiliation like this.
This civilizational hatred only makes sense in this context of creating oneself as an evil copy and wanting to revel in destroying the original. It is almost too diseased to be true.
However, of course, the Romans were in error thinking that they had stamped out the true religion and while they were arrogantly sleeping Allah sent a prophet to a place they paid no heed to. Return to the concept of" Root and branch", pruning and grafting - the Romans believed they had cut off the root of the messianic lineage, which at that time they perceived to be the political threat posed by the true religion.
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It is true that Prophet' Isa, Alayhis Salaam, was the final Prophet sent specifically to the children of Israel, and he descended from the lineage of Ibrahim (Alayhis Salaam) via his son * Ishaq * (Alayhis Salaam).
But, the Romans completely neglected to consider a threat emerging from the Descendents of Ibrahim's other son, Ismail (Alayhis Salaam). That the Arabs descend from Ismail is the sort of basic knowledge we sometimes take for granted.
But in the context of how seriously the Romans treated the threat of the prophetic lineage, it is actually an incredible humiliation to the Romans that, for all of their arrogance where they explicitly revel in having extinguished the prophetic lineage from Ishaq they did not take measures to safeguard against the lineage of Ismail.
Very quickly, it became too late - and when Umar, Radiallahu, conquered the city he found that the Romans had made the Temple Mount a dump for the city's garbage which he revitalized into Masjid Al Aqsa, and once again Jews were permitted to live and worship in Jerusalem.
This is the barest minimum of relevant prehistory for properly understanding the Crusades, so I hope it has not been difficult for those who are mostly interested in the modern subject of this thread.
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So, then, Islam conquered Jerusalem in the 7th century CE and the Romans lost control of this holy city that they had appropriated. The Roman attempt to usurp monotheistic civilization had failed.
There is no need and I am not qualified to go too deep into the background of the First Crusade, why it took several hundred years for" Christendom" to regroup and attempt in earnest to take back Jerusalem. What is relevant with regard to Zionism and Nazism is the form of the crusade itself there are a lot of views and opinions people have about the First Crusade, about its background and execution, this is not really our concern by and large. We are interested mostly in the form and ideas.
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But doubtless it was a refreshing of Western or Roman or" Christian" Civilization that solidified the ideas at the core of Western practice from this moment onward. Anyone wading into the subject will encounter the idea that the crusade formed the basis of Western colonialism.
Indeed the crusade formed, in my opinion, the entire basis of western /" Christian"/ Roman thought thereafter.
Although the Crusade was nominally initiated in response to the destruction of the Church of the Holy Sepulchre, it took the immediate form of pogroms against the Jews of Europe.
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Rather than simply being" random" violence this I think alludes to a deeper understanding that Jews were the initial civilizational enemy of Rome, and that connecting them to the civilization of Islam was an allusion to the fact that there were still really two clear" threats" to the Roman usurpation of monotheism.
Here we may briefly stop and examine one of the interesting psyops undertaken to build out the army for the Crusade - Peter the" Hermit". These excerpts, for anyone curious, are from a book called armies of Heaven by Jay Rubenstein, a pop - y but useful overview of the crusade.
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I include them to illustrate that there was some centralized campaign behind the overall event, and the same can be seen by the language used and the events in Europe leading up to the crusade itself. A hermit, rallying people from town to town with an entourage of" redeemed prostitutes", this sort of operation seems somewhat cheap in modern times but no doubt there was some centralized organizational body behind the creation and use of this character.
Here too, we see something very absurd which is the characterization of the Muslims as" pagan". Although it is without a doubt timeless to project the worse falsehoods onto one's enemy, the degree of projection we see from Western civilization is so absolutely extreme that it bears some deeper examination particularly because of its relevance to the subject of Zionism and Nazism.
Its not * just * that atrocities are projected onto Islamic civilizations from the atrocious and pagan west - Islam itself came to eradicate the darkness of paganism from the globe, whereas Roman civilization sought to enshrine it forever by marrying to a sham of monotheism.
Luckily the author actually saw fit to examine this subject deeper - let's examine one of the songs related to the Muslims, referred to as" Saracens".
Recall earlier that Roman civilization created itself as a dark" reflection" of Judaism. Here, they sort of reverse this process by projecting that dark reflection- with a sanitized, false image of their religion as the" original" image of this projection.
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Rather than simply concoct a boogeyman for the Muslims or even mischaracterize them based on the reality of the tenets of Islam, they create a * precise * mirror image of the false religion of" Christianity" even down to the Trinity.
The Western mythos of the Muslim here begins to take shape, and it would seem with the same level of care and precision that went into the construction of their own identity. And, importantly, with a precise * awareness * of that process by which the Romans adulturated Judaism - a degree of continuity that shows how the ruling classes of" Christendom" have never just forgotten this past but have always held it close. Just as we saw that 9/11 was a reference to the fire of Rome, illustrating a long and deep understanding of history, so too we see here the same understanding exhibited.
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For those who find this a stretch, consider that * Right Now * the same Western Civilization that is recrystallizing with this First Crusade has chosen the first Friday of Rajab to initiate its strikes against Yemen.
The strikes occurred on Friday morning, the first of Rajab. This is no more of an accident as the projection of Roman civilization onto the Muslims, or as they called them the" Saracens". Let's examine the label of the Saracens:" Saracens" refers specifically to the fact that Islam was sent to the Arabs, who descend from Ismail - Alayhis Salaam. Contrary to the excerpt, this label * is * of course born of reality. And it is no coincidence that they chose to frame their main enemy in these terms- the Jews and Judaism are the legacy of the branch of Ishaq (Alayhis Salaam) and Islam and the Arabs are the legacy of Ismail (Alayhis Salaam). The true enemy of Western civilization is the religion of Ibrahim (Alayhis Salaam)- The True Religion, that exposes and obliterates their false" Reflection".
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Sound familiar?
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Here the author underscores that Pope Urban II was well aware of this mythos when crafting the narrative around the Crusade and reiterates the point that the Romans are projecting a" dark version" of themselves- in other words, a sort of inversion of the process by which they created themselves - onto the religion of Islam.
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There is much to say on this subject, but for the sake of trying to keep these threads briefer we may move on or move back to the crusade itself. And the Crusade began, as they all will from here on out, with pogroms against the Jews of Europe.
I include this excerpt to illustrate that - the psychological operations conducted to build out the crusade happened in coordination with the centralized body organizing pogroms.
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One day after a lady and her" miraculous" Goose appeared in Mainz, a state - organized pogrom against the Jews of Mainz was undertaken.
Here again we see obvious op Peter the Hermit spurring on the program of pogroms, which took place as well in Worms, Speyer, and Cologne.
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This last excerpt reiterates the buy - in from the top for these pogroms, and * this * is the fundamental form of the Crusade: Pogroms against the Jews of Europe, and an attempt to wrest Jerusalem from the Muslims. This is the form we are concerned with, and it is no symbolic accident that this is the Order of Operations- that the Crusades are an attempt to re-control the religion of monotheism under the false Roman specter by striking at their original enemy and then their subsequent enemy.
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This continued under the Second Crusade, and the third.
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The Crusades, of course, failed to capture Jerusalem for the Romans other than a brief period of 90 years. Despite many additional tries during the subsequent centuries, they were never able to recapture the city.
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After the Crusades, western" Thought" recrystallized once again with the series of Papal Bulls articulating the Doctrine of Discovery -" International Law" Indeed. This expanded the scope of western ambition to include the enslavement and possession of all peoples on Earth under the banner of Christendom, the immediate context being the invasion of the Americas.
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Columbus himself framed this as explicitly as a crusade and used" Islamic" language to describe the inhabitants of the Americas - and true to the form, this accompanied of course pogroms and expulsions of the Jews in Europe.
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So - a recrystallization of Western thought, pogroms against the Jews of Europe, and an attempt to conquer Jerusalem. This again is the shape of Crusade, which is itself the lifeblood of Western civilization.
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At some point after the invasion of the Americas, the idea changed - or rather, a" new idea" was introduced. It is important to stress that whatever the fractures in western civilization may be, they move as one and their goals and mode of thinking are the same.
A possible origin point to consider for the" New Idea" can be in English Protestantism in the 1600s- (I could n't find this paper on Sci - Hub, but I post it so that interested readers can dig deeper) and while I reject the Inter -" Christian" argument framing of this idea, nonetheless this is an important point in the genesis of this idea.
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This idea was taken up by Napoleon - nominal enemy of the British! - in the 1790s - and then taken back up explicitly by the British shortly after.
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Once again I find the Inter -" Christian" conflict narrative to be false, but nonetheless it is becoming clear that this new idea had taken hold and replaced the old idea of a crusade with" Christians" as the explicit conquerors of Jerusalem - rather, the idea was to send the Jews as *** Proxy Crusaders *** in place of Christians. However, learning from the past that fracturing Islamic Unity was a precursor to success (which one can learn more about by studying the First Crusade), there was no rush to achieve this.
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No longer was a hasty band of cobbled - Together Europeans the mode of conquest but rather a slow and careful breakdown of Islamic unity and the inflation of Zionist narratives with slowly increasing waves of Zionist immigration.
Now, of course, this is a very interesting development and in fact the Jews themselves have had consistent theological objections to the narrative of Zionism from the start.
This theological argument seems likely to be sound, though I am unfamiliar with Jewish theology, and seems to have existed from the beginning of the emergence of" Zionism" What is very interesting here is that, * now * we see that" Christian" Civilization is actually projecting a foreign and unacceptable idea onto the Jews of reconquering a Jerusalem" Taken" from them- in fact, this idea applies to the * Christians * who lost possession of Jerusalem to the Muslims in the 7th century! Take a moment to reflect back onto the" Root and branch" symbolism mentioned in the discussion of the early Roman conquest of Judaea - the Romans cut off the root of monotheism and grafted itself in place of the Jews. * Now *, we see a reversal of this process - the Romans, the west, are cutting off their own ambitions with regards to Jerusalem and * grafting on the branch of Judaism to their own goals *.
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This symbolism is no doubt intentional. Not to jump the gun, but as an innovation in their broader civilizational war against Judaism and Islam they are attempting to * merge * with Judaism - destroying its religious integrity in the process - in order to conquer Jerusalem again.
As the Zionist movement built up steam, what else could occur except an escalation in pogroms against European Jews once again? These historical forms are not accidental - they represent the anti-judaism that is foundational to western civilization.
The pogroms increased notably in Russia - note, again, this is an effort spanning across all of Christendom rather than simply a British or French pet project - leading to the first aliyah- the pogroms began in 1881, in as the previous image states what was then the largest Jewish community in the world.
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It is hard to talk about this subject tastefully. I hope it doesn't come off as cold, it is just not easy history to cover without very callously going over waves of progressively expanding violence and hatred.
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The west and their Zionist collaborators are the true arch enemy of the Jewish people, now and throughout their entire history from the Roman conquest of Judaea onward- they try to hide in a pretend state of recoil from the horror of their own actions, but thats precisely the reason why they are able to achieve the deception. It * has to * be established that, the pogroms were conducted specifically in order to foment Jewish migration which would make Zionism, their" New Idea" for a crusade, possible.
The Russian pogroms were the next logical step in inflating Zionist" thinkers" like the above. That being said, it is hard to gauge whether or not these" thinkers" really had any mass pull and how popular or widespread the idea really was even after the Russian escalation.
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And again, it should be very clear - Zionism is a western idea, on its face it goes against the Jewish religion and considered against the full context of Western history it is a symbolic attack on the religion itself trying to graft it back onto the poisoned root of the Romans.
At this point, immigration still had to be heavily limited and the bulk of Jewish immigrants fleeing the pogroms arrived in America - only a small number of presumably carefully filtered immigrants arrived in Palestine in these early aliyahs. So again, we have a collaboration at minimum between the British, French (see the Dreyfuss Affair), Russian Empire, and America.
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The pogroms in Russia and Eastern Europe escalated and picked up steam over the next few decades, fueling additional small waves of immigration that laid the foundations for the future Zionist State.
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There is more to say about the White Russians here obviously but let's hold that for a moment.
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While all of this was occurring, there was a multi-pronged effort to break up Islamic civilization spearheaded by the British and this of course led to the creation of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia of course, by this time the British had successfully seized Palestine under their" mandate"- but this was not, of course, the crusade that they were looking for.
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It is clear by now that the plan necessarily involved a" Jewish state" as the true" Stroke" of the Crusade that would bring Jerusalem into the hands of the west.
At this point, let's address the elephant in the room - Nazism. Nazism of course began to take shape around this time, with the well - documented help of British and American capital and of course, the White Russians.
There is much food for thought with regards to how the October Revolution and the transformation of Russia may have affected or accelerated or modified the overall plan, and of course Nazism specifically form with the destruction of the Soviet Union as its central goal.
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But this broader conflict between the capitalist countries and the USSR folds into the history being examined here. If it seems like I am handwaving it, I apologize, I am just trying to limit the scope in order to deliver useful analysis with some degree of brevity.
I have already written at length about Nazism and its ideas, and I have for years argued that WWII as it is commonly narrated is a sham- that the conflict between the * capitalist * Allies and the Axis was a sham, that both of these groups were united towards the destruction of the Soviet Union with the exact nature of the genuine fighting interactions between the capitalist allies and the Nazis being an unanswered question. https://t.co/lxecwdlyvo
https://t.co/l3JUkkYGBJ https://t.co/i49hotxio1 but at any rate, particularly through this lens of Zionism and the Crusades and the prelude to the' Final Solution', I think it is safe to say that any narrative that does not emphasize the collaboration between the west and Nazism as completely fraudulent.
This is not the place for broader analysis of WWII, Nazism, or the Holocaust, but it should be clear enough to readers how all of this folds into the history I have outlined.
With the aftermath of WWII, the sham of conflict between the Zionists and the British Mandate, the staging of refugees leading up to 1948, the groundwork was conducted for the final stroke of the Crusade which was of course the creation of the State of Israel.
The Holocaust was the" big pogrom" leading up to the" Big Idea" of using the Jewish victims as the stand - in for the occupation of Jerusalem by Christendom, and * This * is the true relationship between Nazism and Zionism.
And Beyond the superficial goal of making their enemy the Jews fight their enemy the Muslims, their goal has been an outright transformation of the Jewish religion and an unholy marrying of it back onto Western civilization after almost two thousand years of abuse.
This is what Zionism stands for, the ultimate corruption and eradication of Judaism -" Good Riddance", or so they have hoped.
Nazism was a rebirth of the west - no longer was a" doctrine or discovery" or the concept of" terra nullius" enough, no longer was the superiority of the dominator a matter of ideology or spirituality, it was biological.
And no longer was conquest or slavery enough, the enemy was to be industrially exterminated. The world had become smaller, it had been" discovered" in full. All that was left was to exterminate the discovered, and this is the phase of Western Civilization that we have been in since World War II and the advent of nuclear weapons.
Nazism is the new Religious Edict of Western civilization, taking the place of the Papal Bulls of the past. It is the latest crystallization, the Holocaust was its ritual pogrom, and Zionism is its crusade.
This is simultaneously an attack on the religion of Judaism, Islamic civilization, and all of humanity at once. And true to their history, they constantly embed crude jokes comparing the Zionists and Nazis to emphasize this connection.
Harkening back to the concept of projection from earlier, the latest wave of Zionism has emphasized the use of projection to an absolute extreme. It has worked overtime to try to connect the Jewish religion to the atrocities perpetrated in the mode of western civilization - or comparing their rockets to Hanukkah candles, when they are the finger of polytheistic civilization fighting against the true religion in the Holy Land, or in the most extreme case pretending that their murdered deceased victims ' bodies are in fact Israeli. This goes beyond surface - level anti-enemy propaganda and takes on a form that is reminiscent of the sort of conceptual play with" Dark Reflections" I never feel like enough has been said, but I've been trying to keep things brief for the sake of remaining useful to those who do not have time to read or do not want to wait for me to finish writing. I hope this has been helpful.
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The original and only successful crusade held Jerusalem for around 90 years, and we are only yet coming up on eight decades of occupation. It appears hopeful that the Crusaders and their Zionists will lose their grip without exceeding their previous 90 - year record.
Thanks for reading and I hope this has been useful even though I have had to rush through it.